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Ed	Posted - 23 Aug 02 - 01:42 pm
	All Jolly Fellows that Follow the Plough 'Twas early one morning at the break of the day The cocks were all crowing and the farmer did say Come rise my good fellows, come rise with good will Your horses want something their bellies to fill When four o'clock comes, then up we do rise And off to our stable we merrily flies With rubbing and scrubbing our horses I'll vow That we're all jolly fellows that follow the plough When six o'clock comes, for breakfast we meet With bread, beef and pud, boys, we heartily eat With a piece in our pocket, I'll swear and I'll vow That we're all jolly fellows that follow the plough We harness our horses and away we do go We nip o'er the plains as nimbly as does And when we get there so jolly and bold To see which of us a straight furrow can hold Our master come to us and this he did say What have you been doings boys, all this long day? If you've not ploughed your acre, I'll swear and I'll vow That you're damned idle fellows that follow the plough I stepped up to him and made this reply We've all ploughed our acre, so you've told a damn lie We've all ploughed our acre, I'll swear and I'll vow we're all jolly fellows that follow the plough He turned himself round and laughed at the joke It's past two o'clock, boys, it's time to unyoke Unharness your horses and rub them down well And I'll give you a jug of my very best ale So all you brave fellows whoever you be Come take this advice and be ruled by me Never fear your master then I'll swear and I'll vow That you're all jolly fellows that follow the plough Tune: X:1 T:All Jolly Fellows that Follow the Plough M:3/4 L:1/8 K:C C2\|C2E2G2\|G2G2DD\|D2C2B,2\|C4C2\|C2E2G2\|c2c2cc\|B2G2A2\|G4G2 \|c2c2c2\|c2E2E2\|F2G2A2\|G4E2\|E2E2E2\|G2F2D2\|D2C2B,2\|C4 w:'Twas ear-ly one mor-ning at the break of the day The cocks were all crow-ing and the farm-er did say Come rise my good fel-lows, come rise with good will Your hor-ses want some-thing their bel-lies to fill \|] Source: Everyman's Book of English Country Songs Notes: Roy Palmer comments: This song was extremely widely known - Cecil Sharp remarked that 'almost every singer knows it; the bad singers often know but little else' - and it can still be heard from time to time in country pubs. The version printed here comes from Arthur Lane, a Shropshire countryman born in 1884. He was a 'waggoner', as he called it, himself. He learned the song when he was 'living in' at a farm near Bishop's Castle. The tune is a variant of the ubiquitous 'Villikins and his Dinah' An audio file of the song (with an additional refrain) sung by Bob Mills, can be found at Microsoft Encarta The database entry can be found here Ed Edited By Ed - 8/23/2002 1:42:33 PM

Malcolm Douglas	Posted - 23 Aug 02 - 04:56 pm
	Roud 346. There are two broadside examples at Bodleian Library Broadside Ballads; the more legible is: All jolly fellows that follow the plough Printed between 1813 and 1838 by J. Catnach, 2, Monmouth-court, 7 Dials [London]. Johnson Ballads 148.

Jon Freeman	Posted - 23 Aug 02 - 05:41 pm
	Song database updated.

Mary in Kentucky	Posted - 24 Aug 02 - 02:23 am
	Jon, in the database where you have the category "related songs"...does that mean words, tunes, or both? I read that this tune is a variant of the tune "Villikens and his Dinah." It's also the tune for "Sweet Betsey from Pike."

Jon Freeman	Posted - 24 Aug 02 - 02:32 am
	Mary, perhaps I should re-word that to "related songs in song database" and perhaps I'm being a little ambitious in having it as it needs manual updating and someone knowing what else is in the database. It may be used for songs or I'd guess to songs that share or have a related tune. From the tech side, the idea is that if we thought that it might be relevant to give a link to another song in the database, both songs are cross-referenced with links in one go. Jon Edited By Jon Freeman - 8/24/2002 2:32:14 AM

Malcolm Douglas	Posted - 24 Aug 02 - 02:39 am
	It'd be a dangerous business trying to relate all songs that use the Villikens tune (amongst which is Betsey from Pike) -it's one of those "all-purpose" tunes that get used for any number of ephemeral local compositions (we used to make up songs about our local pubs to that tune when I was a teenager) and, indeed, for any song at all that nobody can remember the proper tune for...

Mary in Kentucky	Posted - 24 Aug 02 - 02:45 am
	G I know what you mean. But frankly, I didn't recognize the title "Villikens and his Dinah." When the database said, The tune is a variant of the ubiquitous 'Villikins and his Dinah' I was curious to hear it.

Malcolm Douglas	Posted - 24 Aug 02 - 03:02 am
	I know what you mean. It's probably only in the last few years that it even occurred to me that the tune had a name; it's one of those that everybody knows and no one really thinks about. Still genuinely current in tradition, that's for sure. Edited By Malcolm Douglas - 8/24/2002 3:02:11 AM

dmcg	Posted - 24 Aug 02 - 10:15 am
	Here are some notes on 'Villikins and his Dinah' copied from the website at http://mysongbook.de/msb (note: there is no 'www' on that) In its early days the music hall relied heavily on folksongs and their tunes, and many early performers made a speciality of folksong parodies - some of which have lasted better than the originals. [...] Among them was Villikins and His Dinah (Toorali oorali oorali ay) by the Cockney comedian Sam Cowell. This had started life as a broadside based on the murder of Maria Marten in 1827, William and Maria, which, Stephen Sedley has written, 'was so awful in itself that the text barely had to be changed to achieve a handsome send- up'. But Villikins and Dinah went on to live its own broadside life, and it is in this form that the song is known today. [...] There are fewer folksong tunes than there are sets of words, the tunes having been used and reused with minor variations or with none at all. Villikins and Dinah, for example, must have been sung to hundreds of different sets of words. (Pollard, Folksong 9ff) [1999:] According to Peter Davidson in 'Songs Of The British Music Hall' the song originated in the 1840s sung by Frederick Robson at the Grecian Saloon (adjoining The Eagle Tavern of 'Pop Goes The Weasel' fame) and was later taken up by Sam Cowell. Robson was 'a master of lightning changes from side-splitting comedy to heart-rending pathos'. and Davidson expounds at some length the intercut of comedy and pathos in the song and its performance. ('... demands of an audience something of that Elizabethan capacity for multiconscious enjoyment described by S. L. Bethell in 'Shakespeare And The Popular Dramatic Condition'. 'It is easy and not unnatural to see Villikins and songs like it as demanding simple guying. But there is here, in an extremely bold form, the relationship of comic and pathetic which is used so skilfully by Albert Chevalier and which is to be found in some of Vesta Victoria's and Gus Elen's songs.'). Stephen Sedley in 'The Seeds of Love' says of the song that it derived from 'a serious street ballad called William and Dinah which was so awful in itself that the text barely had to be changed to achieve a handsome comic send-up'. (Mick Pearce, uk.music.folk, 27 Sep: )

Malcolm Douglas	Posted - 24 Aug 02 - 03:59 pm
	The William and Maria reference above seems to be a mistake. William and Dinah (sometimes Diana) circulated quite widely on broadsides, and a number of examples can be seen at the Bodleian Library site.

dmcg	Posted - 24 Aug 02 - 04:19 pm
	Malcolm is correct: Sedley's notes refer to William and Dinah. He further refers to "120 Comic Songs Sung by Sam Cowell", Ashton "Modern Street Ballads" and two broadsides as sources for the 'collated' version in his book "The Seeds of Love"

dmcg	Posted - 22 Sep 02 - 02:53 pm
	I've made a database entry for Villikins and his Dinah here

Malcolm Douglas	Posted - 22 Sep 02 - 05:41 pm
	You need to remove the reference to Maria Marten from the database entry; her murder was completely unrelated to William and Dinah, and the latter song was not based on it.

dmcg	Posted - 22 Sep 02 - 05:58 pm
	Datbase updated

pavane	Posted - 26 Dec 02 - 03:49 pm
	Just a note that the earliest reference in the Bodleian Library to Willian and Diana is dated 'Between 1789 and 1820'.

masato sakurai	Posted - 26 Dec 02 - 04:38 pm
	From notes to An English Folk Music Anthology (Ethnic Folkways Records FE 38553, 1981): ALL JOLLY FELLOWS THAT FOLLOW THE PLOUGH (Sung by Bob Mills, retired herdsman, Alresford, Hampshire) (Greig. Folk Songs Of The North East/Kidson. Garland Of English Folk Songs/Baring-Gould. Songs Of The West/Broadwood. English County Songs/Williams. Folk Songs Of The Upper Thames/FSJ No. 13/Wales. Field And Furrow/Karpeles. Cecil Sharp's Collection Of English Folk Songs/Kennedy. Folksongs Of Britain And Ireland/Henderson. Victorian Street Ballads/MacColl And Seeger. Travellers Songs From England And Scotland/Palmer. Everyman Book Of English Country Songs) 'Twas early one morning at the break of the day All the cocks were a-crowing, the farmer did say Come arise my good fellows, come arise with good will For your horses want something their bellies to fill Chorus: Singing too-er-aye oo-er-aye oo-er-aye-ay When four o clock comes and up we do rise And off to the stable we merrily flies With a rubbing and scrubbing our horses I vow We're all jolly fellows that follows the plough When six o clock comes in breakfast did meet On cold beef and pork which we merrily eat With a piece in our pockets I'll swear and I'll vow We're all jolly fellows that follow the plough Now our master did come and this he did say What have you been doing my boys this long day For you ain't ploughed your acre I'll swear and I'll vow Your [sic] all lazy fellows that follows the plough Then up jumps our carter to make a reply We've all ploughed our acre you've a-told us a lie We've all ploughed our acre I'll swear and I'll vow We're all jolly fellows that follows the plough Now our master did come, he did laugh at the joke Why it's past two o clock boys it's time you unyoked Unharness your horses and rub 'em down well And I'll bring 'ee a jug of my very best ale

masato sakurai	Posted - 27 Dec 02 - 02:33 am
	Other editions at the Bodleian Library broadside ballads are: Jolly fellows that follow the plough ("When four o'clock comes then up we rise ...") Subject: Agricultural laborers Printed and Sold by John Ross, Royal Arcade, Newcastle-on-Tyne (published between 1847 and 1852) Harding B 11(3226) We are all jolly fellows that follow the plough ("When four o'clock comes then up we rise ...") Subject: Agricultural laborers Imprint: H. Disley, Printer, 57, High Street, St. Giles (published between 1860 and 1883) Harding B 16(301a) We are all jolly fellows that follow the plough ("When four o'clock comes, then up we all rise ...") Subject: Agricultural laborers Imprint: John Bebbington, Printer, 31, Oldham Road, Manchester. Sold by J. Beaumont, 176, York Street, Leeds. Printer's Series: (464). (Published between 1858 and 1861) Firth c.26(3) We are all jolly fellows who follow the plough ("When four o'clock comes then up we rise ...") Subject: Agricultural laborers Imprint: Pitts, Printer, wholesale Toy and Marble warehouse, 6, Gt. St. Andreu [sic] Street, Seven Dials (between 1819 and 1844) Harding B 11(4369) We are all jolly fellows who follow the plough ("When four o'clock comes then up we rise ...") Subject: Agricultural laborers Note: See Harding B 11(4369) for imprint (between 1819 and 1844) Harding B 11(4370) Johnson Ballads 1069A We are all jolly fellows who follow the plough ("It was early one morning by the break of day ...") Subject: Agricultural laborers Imprint: E. Hodge's (from Pitt's) Wholesale Song Mart, Toy and Marble Warehouse, 31, Dudley St. 7 Dials (between 1846 and 1854) Harding B 11(2980) We are all jolly fellows who follow the plough ("It was early one morning at the break of the day ...") Subject: Agricultural laborers Imprint: London: H.P. Such, Machine Printer, and Publisher, 177, Union Street, Borough. Printer's Series: (107). (between 1863 and 1885) Harding B 11(2947) The last edition on the list above (published by Such), as the one in W. Henderson's Victorian Street Ballads (Country Life Ltd., 1937, pp. 117-118), has the "early one morning" stanza. Edited By masato sakurai - 12/27/2002 2:34:36 AM

masato sakurai	Posted - 05 Jan 03 - 08:40 am
	The version in Baring-Gould's Songs of the West (1905 edition, No. 63) has a somewhat similar but different melody.

masato sakurai	Posted - 20 Jan 03 - 06:28 am
	The tune (1a) to "Lord Ronald" (Child 12) in Gavin Greig's Last Leaves of Traditional Ballads and Ballad Airs (1925) is basically "Villikens and His Dinah". It is reprinted in Bronson, vol. 1 (p. 208; No. 12, variant 44).

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