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dmcg	Posted - 04 Oct 02 - 10:36 pm
	Claudy Banks It was on one summer's morning, Being in the month of May, Down by a flow'ry garden I carelessly did stray; I overheard a damsel in sorrow to complain, All for her absent lover that plough'd the raging main. I boldly stepp-ed up to her And put her in surprise. I'll own she did not know me My being in disguise; Said I, "My charming creature, My joy and heart's delight How far do you go a-travelling This dark and rainy night?" "My way, kid sir, to the Cloddy Banks If you please to show; Pity a poor girl distracted, For there I have to go; I am in search of a young man, And Johnny is his name, All on the Banks of Cloddy I'm told he does remain" "If my Johnny was with me this night, He would keep me from all harm, But he's in the field of battle All in his uniform; He's in the field of battle, His foes for to destroy, Like the roaring king of honour Fought in the Wars of Troy." "O it's six long weeks and better, Since your true love left this shore; In crossing the wild ocean, Where foaming billows roar, In crossing the wide ocean, For honour and for gain, I am told his ship was wreck-ed All on the coast of Spain." O in hearing of this dreadful news, It put her in despair, In wrining of her tender hands And a tearing out her hair; "now since he's gone and left me, No other man I'll take, All in some lonesome valley I will wander for his sake." O his heart was fill'd with joy that night, He could no longer stand; He fell into her arms, Saying, "Betsy, I'm that man; I am that faithful young man, Whom once you thought was slain, Now since we've met on Cloddy Banks, We'll never part again." Source: The Life of a Man, EFDS, 1970 Notes: Collected from George (Pop) Maynard, Copthorne, Surrey 1959 by Ken Stubbs Database entry is here

dmcg	Posted - 04 Oct 02 - 10:45 pm
	Banks of Claudy, The [Laws N40] DESCRIPTION: The singer meets a girl on the banks of Claudy. She is seeking her lover. He tells her Johnny is false, she rejects this. He tells her Johnny is shipwrecked; she is distressed. He tells her he is Johnny. She rejoices AUTHOR: unknown EARLIEST DATE: 1913 KEYWORDS: separation reunion trick love FOUND IN: US(Ap,MW,SE,So) Canada(Mar) Britain(Scotland) Australia Ireland REFERENCES (9 citations): Laws N40, "The Banks of Claudy" Randolph 47, "The Banks of Cloddy" (2 texts, 1 tune) Eddy 55, "The Banks of Claudie" (1 text, 1 tune) Meredith/Anderson, pp. 166-167, "The Banks of Claudy" (1 text, 1 tune) SHenry H5+H693, p. 313, "The Banks of Claudy" (1 text, 1 tune) LPound-ABS, 30, pp., "The Lover's Return" (1 text) JHCox 321, "The Banks of Claudie" (1 text plus mention of 1 more) Ord, p. 130, "The Banks of Claudy" (1 text) DT 465, BCLAUDIE CLAUDYBK RECORDINGS: Bob & Ron Copper, "Claudy Banks" (on LastDays) George Maynard, "The Banks of Claudy" (on Maynard1) CROSS-REFERENCES: cf. "John (George) Riley (I)" [Laws N36] and references there ALTERNATE TITLES: Claudy Banks

dmcg	Posted - 04 Oct 02 - 10:49 pm
	See also the version in the Mudcat Digital Tradition, where the tune is taken from the Copper family Songbook.

Jon Freeman	Posted - 05 Oct 02 - 12:32 am
	The dt entry is here. Jon

masato sakurai	Posted - 10 Jan 03 - 02:28 pm
	Broadside versions at Bodleian Library Broadside Ballads are: The banks of Claudy ("As I roved out one morning all in the monh [sic] of May ...") 2806 c.15(164) Printer: Birmingham, W. (Dublin) Date: c.1867 Note: Slip. The same setting of type appears in a sheet of three ballads; see 2806 b.9(257) and 2806 b.9(275). See Peter Carnell (1979): F26(D) for imprint. The banks of Claudy ("It was on a summer's morning all in the month of May ...") Harding B 11(1847) Printers: Catnach, J. (London); Marshall, W. (Bristol) Date: between 1813 and 1838 Imprint: J. Catnach, Printer, 2, Monmouth-Court, 7 Dials. Sold by W. Marshall, Bristol The banks of Cludy [sic] ("Twas one summer's morning, all in the month of May ...") Harding B 16(22c) Printer: Pitts, J. (London) Date: between 1819 and 1844 Imprint: Pitts, Printer, Wholesale Toy and Marble Warehouse, 6, Great St. Andrew Street, Seven Dials Note: Slip. Part of a sheet of three; see Harding B 11(266). The banks of Claudy ("It was on a summer's morning all in the month of May ...") Harding B 11(2261) Printer: Pratt, W. (Birmingham) Date: c.1850 Imprint: William Pratt, Printer, 82, Digbeth Birmingham The banks of Claudy ("As I roved out one morning all in the monh [sic] of May ...") 2806 b.9(257) Printer: Birmingham, W. (Dublin) Date: c.1867 The banks of Claudy ("As I roved out one morning all in the monh [sic] of May ...") 2806 b.9(275) Harding B 19(110) Printer: Birmingham, W. (Dublin) Date: c.1867 Note: See Carnell (1979): F26 for imprint The banks of Cludy [sic] ("T'was one summer's morning, all in the month of May ...") Harding B 11(266) Printer: Pitts, J. (London) Date: between 1819 and 1844 Imprint: Pitts, Printer, Wholesale Toy and Marble Warehouse, 6, Great St. Andrew Street, Seven Dials The banks of Claudy ("As I walked out one evening clear, all in the month of May ...") 2806 c.14(91) Printer: McIntosh, R. (Glasgow) Date: between 1849 and 1889 Imprint: R. M'Intosh, Printer The banks of Claudy ("It was on a summer's morning all in the month of May ...") Firth b.26(281) Harding B 11(326) Johnson Ballads 1162 Printer: Such, H. (London) Date: between 1863 and 1885 Imprint: London: H. Such, Printer & Publisher 177, Union-st., Boro', S.E. The banks of Claudy ("It was on a summer's evening all in the month of May ...") 2806 c.18(12) Printer: Pitts, J. (London) Date: between 1819 and 1844 Imprint: Pitts Printer and Toy warehouse, 6, Great st. Andrew street 7 dials Note: Slip Banks of Claudy ("It was one summer's morning, in the pleasant month of May ...") 2806 c.17(15) Printer: Swindells (Manchester) Date: between 1796 and 1853 Imprint: Swindells, Printer Note: Slip. Originally a sheet with 2806 c.17(126). The banks of Claudy ("It was on a summers morning all in the month of May ...") Harding B 18(24) Printer: De Marsan, H. (New York, N.Y.) Date: c.1860 Imprint: H. De Marsan, Publisher, 54 Chatham Street, New-York Note: Border: Comic heads. The banks of Claudy ("It was on a summer's morning, all in the month of May ...") Firth b.25(188) Harding B 11(4241) Printer: Disley, H. (London) Date: between 1860 and 1883 Imprint: H. Disley, Printer, 57, High-street, St. Giles The banks of Claudy ("It was on a summer's morning, all in the month of May ...") Harding B 11(4360b) [no link given] Printer: Fortey, W.S. (London) Date: between 1858 and 1885 Imprint: [London: Printed at the "Catnach Press," by W.]S. Fortey, Monmouth Court, Bloomsbury Note: Slip. Part of a sheet of two ballads; see Harding B 11(4163). The banks of Claudy ("It was on a summer's morning, all in the month of May ...") Firth b.25(296) Harding B 11(4163) Printer: Fortey, W.S. (London) Date: between 1858 and 1885 Imprint: London; Printed at the "Catnach Press" by W.S. Fortey, Monmouth court, Bloomsbury The banks of Claudy ("It was on a summer's evening all in the month of May ...") 2806 c.13(191) [link to enlarged image broken] Printer: Harkness, J. (Preston) Date: between 1840 and 1866 Note: 2806 c.13(309) is a variant edition.

IanC	Posted - 19 Jun 03 - 05:30 pm
	The Bodleian also has one with a variant spelling which isn't chucked up by a search for "Claudy" Armstrong, W. (Liverpool) Date: between 1820 and 1824 (Claudey) :-)

dmcg	Posted - 19 Feb 04 - 09:52 am
	I have added the Dorset song Midst of Night collected by the Hammonds which is part of the same family (although perhaps a cousin rather than a sibling!)

dmcg	Posted - 19 Feb 04 - 10:00 am
	I have just noticed that the post I made on 04-Oct-2002 10:45:47 PM from the Traditional Ballad index shows 1913 as the earliest date (currently the TB index shows 1903). As the entries above show, this date is as best misleading. Should I edit it out?

IanC	Posted - 19 Feb 04 - 10:48 am
	dmcg The dates given in the Traditional Ballad Index are always misleading. :-)

Malcolm Douglas	Posted - 19 Feb 04 - 04:45 pm
	They relate to the publication date of the earliest anthology they have so far indexed that contains an example of the song in question; this is mentioned in the introduction but not, I think, thereafter. A more specific heading would be useful, as the current approach certainly does confuse people. Midst of Night doesn't seem at all related to Claudy Banks, except insofar as they share a very common theme. The former appears to be considerably the elder, though it has changed a fair bit from its 17th century ancestor. Roud 604 Laws N29 Noted from Mr Elliott in September 1905. His set was first printed in The Journal of the Folk Song Society III (11) 1907, 95-97. Verse 7 here is introduced from a broadside precursor of the later 17th century, The Valiant Seaman; Mr Elliott did not sing it. The second line of verse 9, which Mr Elliott omitted, has presumably been introduced from elsewhere. The song appeared on broadsides as The Welcome Sailor; various editions can be seen at Bodleian Library Broadside Ballads: The Welcome Sailor There are also editions of the earlier broadside: The valiant sea-mans happy return to his love, after a long seven years absence The song has not been found very often, but has spread abroad; Roud currently list three versions from America, including one recorded from Warde Ford in 1938 by Stanley Robertson Cowell, Nightingales of Spring; this can be heard at the Library of Congress California Gold site: Nightingales of spring Ms. Brocklebank notes that Joseph Elliott had worked periodically in the Newfoundland Fishery, and all the songs he sang for the Hammonds related to the sea and sailors. He later emigrated to Nova Scotia.

dmcg	Posted - 19 Feb 04 - 04:58 pm
	I have given 'Midst of Night' a thread of its own, using Malcolm's text above as the database entry.

Jon Freeman	Posted - 07 Dec 06 - 11:18 am
	Received via the "contact us" form. Can anyone help: I'm trying to find the tune and words for the folk song "Claudy Banks" which Gustav Holst used in 1911 in the first movement of his Second Suite for Military Band. I have found several versions of this tune, all versions with approximately the same words, but none of the tunes match. Holst's tune is in 6/8 meter in B-flat Aeolian sol/-do-do-do-ti-sol/-mi-fa-sol-ti-sol/-fa-mi-do-do-ti-sol/-ti etc.

Malcolm Douglas	Posted - 08 Dec 06 - 07:39 am
	I'd expect it to be the set that George Gardiner and J F Guyer got from Frederick White at Southampton. Guyer noted the tune in January 1909, Gardiner having noted the words some time earlier. It is in 6/8, B flat Aeolian; but I don't have a copy of the Holst piece to compare. Holst was commissioned by Gardiner to write piano arrangements for some of the songs collected by the latter in Hampshire; although 'Claudy Banks' wasn't one of them, Holst was doubtless familiar with the material ('Swansea Town' in the same work was also collected by Gardiner). Tune (a Lazarus variant) and text were printed in The Journal of the Folk-Song Society, vol III part 4 (issue 13), 1909, pp 287-289. I will transcribe when time allows, but that won't be for several days I should think. Almost miraculously, a wax cylinder recording survives which is probably Frederick White singing the song. It can be heard on the English Folk Dance and Song Society cd A Century of Song (EFDSS CD02, 1998). Waterson:Carthy recorded an arrangement of it on their cd Common Tongue (Topic TSCD488, 1997). Edited By Malcolm Douglas - 08 Dec 06 - 07:44 am

Guest Account	Posted - 08 Dec 06 - 07:53 pm
	From: KeithKinder My Thanks to Malcolm Douglas for his advice on "Claudy Banks" as used by Holst in the Second Suite for Band. As it happens our library has a reprint of the Journal of the Folk Song Society, and with Malcolm's citation I found it easily. Thanks Malcolm!

jimpotter	Posted - 04 Jan 07 - 10:43 pm
	Is there such a place as claudy banks ? and if so where

dmcg	Posted - 05 Jan 07 - 09:34 am
	There is a discussion on that over at Mudcat and here's a link to one possibility; there are other suggestions in the same thread. For what its worth, I'm not sure it is necessarily a real place. It's quite common for place names in songs to be changed to some local feature and it's possible that we have settled on "Claudy Banks" as the accepted version almost randomly. A subtle clue that might be the case - and its worth watching for in any song naming a location - is to see what it rhymes with. In the version above 'Cloddy Banks' never has to rhyme with anything which makes it much easier to substitute anything of the right length and emphasis!

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